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June 23, 2008

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George P. Wood

But Paul, if religion is about relationship not rules, why does Jesus give so many rules in the New Testament? Why Paul? Why James and the other writers? Paul wrote: "Love does no harm to its neighbors; therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law." This seems to suggest that there might be a connection between relationships and rules. Indeed, the commandments to love God wholeheartedly and to love neighbor as self are, well, rules. Your points about legalism are well-made and well-taken, but come on, no rules whatsoever? How about the right rules?

Paul Stewart

George - always the contrarian. I knew this post would draw out a comment from you!

I agree, loving God and neighbor is what God designed and created us to do. In the fall we didn't just lose our morals, we lost our ability to be human; to do what we were created to do. We lost relationship with God and others and this cannot be repaired by a simple formula or by following a moral code.

Even in the Old Testament the law is given after the election and deliverance from Egypt (Ex 2:23), so the law was never about earning a relationship with God. It is about living out relationship with God. The law refers to the divine standard for the conduct of the people of God. It provides the framework for righteousness to occur – but as the Pharisees discovered, just to adhere to the law does not make one righteous.

So for the Christian justification is the foundation of ethics – what Christ did on the cross gives us the ability to be ethical people. Sanctification is growing in righteous response to that work.

Christian ethics then is the conduct that maintains the established relational ties.

The cross is the end of human striving and morality. We can’t live according to our own knowledge of good and evil. That “Adam” had to and has to be put to death. That work was done by Jesus on the cross and also a work we participate in through following Him.

The Law is a part of God’s grace. It is telling people how to live in relationship and in freedom (Ps. 119).

So there is a VITAL connection between relationship and rules, but one that unfortunately many people are unaware of or forget about.

George P. Wood

I can't disagree with that!

Tory

Not only did you rock the house on this but you got GPW to nearly agree. I am going to re post this because I think it is a great thought.

Enjoy the new Sigur Ros

George P. Wood

Tory:

Nearly agree? Geez, I've got some bad rep on the whole contrarian thing. Speaking of which, I'm starting a new weekly column at AGThinkTank.com called "The Contrarian Pastor." It'll run on Fridays, beginning Friday, July 4th. The inaugural column will be, "Yes, Virginia; This Really Is a Christian Nation." It ought to be, uh, contrarian. Other ideas for the column include, "Who Would Jesus Torture?"; "Religious, Not Spiritual"; "Two Cheers for Organized Religion"; and "Do We Really Need Another Revival?"

George

Phillip Santillan

"Christian ethics then is the conduct that maintains the established relational ties."

In that I think it sums it up. Great post!

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